You: What about chemicals that can reproduce? DNA, the building block of life, is self replicating. I would say that any kind of reproduction is an action that takes place in order to sustain life.

Aaron: DNA has no will and no life force. It neither wishes to perform these actions nor acts out of reflex or habit.

You: DNA does reproduce out of habit — it does exactly what it is best suited to do.

Aaron: By habit I mean either a learned response or an instinctive one.

You: Would you say that the act of knowing your religion to be true is learned by rote or instinct?

Aaron: I see the trap you are trying to set, but you are not as clever as you think. God inspires us to believe in him, and it is that inspiration which gives us the faith to believe.

You: And I suppose that DNA acts the way it does not because it can "act" on its own but because God wants it to?

Aaron: That is essentially correct.

You: That is essentially meaningless. You are telling me that a chemical process is not alive because it cannot act. You are also telling me that, although it might look as if a chemical can act, in reality it is simply moving under the hand of God. Why then should I not simply assume that your definition of "act" is worthless because everything is just following God's will.

Aaron: Of course everything is following God's will. That is my point exactly.

You: You don't get it, do you? We are never going to get anywhere if you keep pulling God into your proofs.