You: Then I must ask you, are imperfect people still able to see right from wrong?

Aaron: Of course. God is a perfect example of all that is right, all that is not as God says it should be is wrong.

You: Well then, you must explain to me how people could let the laws go on letting people do evil when they know, with absolute God-given certainty, in their hearts that the laws are wrong.

Aaron: Then I will have to clarify my answer. I am saying that those who do not turn a deaf ear to God know the difference from right and wrong. It is true that those who ignore God's word might be able to rationalize evils like pornography or abortion to themselves, but that does not make those acts any more good.

You: If you will admit that not everyone agrees on what is right and wrong, then you will have pretty much ruined your own argument, won't you?

Aaron: Not at all! There is a difference between good and evil, it is simply not obvious to all.

You: That is precisely why your argument is worthless. If the difference between good and evil as taught by God is not known to all, then there must be those who think that they know the difference between good and evil but who did not learn it from God — myself for example. If it is possible to know the difference without God, then how can the difference be a proof for God?

Aaron: Ah, but those who do not stand in the light of the Lord do not know the truth of his goodness! Only God is truly good.

You: That's fine for you, but I believe that I can tell good from evil without any help from God, and you aren't going to be able to convince me that your definition is better than mine by virtue of divine inspiration without proving that God exists in the first place.

Aaron: Then we're back to square one, aren't we.

You: It sure seems that way. Care to try another one?

Aaron: Of course.